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tyler on the other hand, lancaster of a compromise, trying -- even offers to give for sumpter back to south carolina and ordered to give virginia to stay in the end and get the virginia secession commission to go home. tyler will hear none of this. he is all of his influence. so both of them proved to be problematic. lincoln on the inside than one on the outside. other questions? >> yes. >> as you mentioned and seems to repeat itself. a lot of the antics that preceded lincoln's term, it seems like their is a lot of similar activity going on nowadays, especially how it relates to the economy and how much we're spending on tournament. and with the interjection of the
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two-party, can you draw any more parallels? it is just kind of foreshadowing another civil war? >> no, thankfully. but here is the thing. i was a history jackie and very active in politics forever up the opportunity to register myself. a great opporunity to write three books out. history will be worth it for me to read because it is a great story. some of the most amazing stories ever. you would not believe it is somebody wrote in their novel. too good to be real. that is not a good enough reason i write history because the messages from the past resonant with us today and are applicable we can learn from these things. we can remember a matter how divisive and combat of our politics, remember there was a point when our country went to war with each other and we lost 2 percent of population.
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two out of every hundred americans, a war that destroyed broad sections of the country, 10,000. and so however bad we think it is, and i like watching tv and hearing, this is the most of my selection ever, the most combative, negative campaign. people's memory goes back about ten years. look at the politics. that scared news. we had a whole host of very serious problems in this country he touched on one of them. $17 trillion in debt that we are passing on to the next generation. maybe a first generation in american history that will be better off than their grandparents and parents. so these are serious issues. remember that america has always found a way out of these problems. the other, we see a series of these lackluster presence who are not equal to the task in front of them, the solution is to not stand the test of time.
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from that time comes abraham lincoln who is really the most amazing person of this american civilization. so america is frequently been bereft of the warrants. congress and the president are at all-time lows in popularity. easy independence increasing as a share of the electorate. people are frustrated. so america has regularly been without the that reflected the inherent wisdom, goodness, and integrity of the american people . remember, wherever the republicans are really in danger, this hour of crisis in 1861 we turn to abraham lincoln. absolutely optimistic for the future even as i write about a previous time of lackluster leaders. thank you so much for coming. [applause]
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[applause] >> thank you, sir. thanks to everybody. first and foremost, the book sitting at the table. a couple boxes and anything case we run out. taken up to the registered first and get it paid for. then you get start lining appear. last but not least, if you can carefully hold the chair that you are seated upon, place it up against the wall that will be helpful. thank you, everybody. thank you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> wednesday book tv and prime time
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>> c-span sundays at eight, a collection of stories.
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>> i always knew that there is a risk in the bohemian. i decided to ticket because whether it is an illusion are not -- i don't think it is -- it helps my concentration. a stop me being board, stop other people being born to some extent. it would keep me awake. it would make easier for me to go on longer, to prolong the conversation, to enhance the moments. if i was asked would i do it again, the answer is probably yes. i would have quit earlier possibly hoping to get away with the whole thing. easy for me. not very nice for my children the year. vice a, -- the truth is it would be kirk -- hypocritical for me to say know all about us is tough because i did know. >> the soviet union and the soviet system in eastern europe contains the seeds of its own destruction. many of the problems that we saw
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at the end began at the beginning. i spoke of ready above the attempt to control all institutions and control all parts of the economy and political life and social life. when you try to control everything you create opposition and potential dissidents everywhere. if you tell all artists they have to paint the same way and one says, no, you have just made him into a political dissident. >> if you want to subsidize housing in this country and we want to talk about it and the populace degrees the put it on the balance sheet would and make it clear and evident. but when you deliver it through these third party enterprises fannie mae and freddie mac, when you deliver the subject through a property of public companies and private shareholders and executives who can extract a lot
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of that subsidy for themself, that is not a very good way of subsidizing homeownership. fez >> wednesday to of programs that focus on campus sexual assaults. we hear from sexual assault survivor john kelly and his experience. here is a look. >> under investigation. i made the choice. when i was raped still under investigation and i still did not know. and i'm not bacchanal liotta chosen another school to begin with. perhaps i would have attended -- but it is not within the purview of the department of education to deny students the up to it to make educated decisions for themselves. i only wish i had known it was
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under investigation when i began going to my campuses so i can have at least a modicum of preparation for the humiliation no indoor at the hands of ministers adjust to protect me. they did not protect me. i have no cause to suspect anything but support for them because of ocr is a capacity. i was thrilled to see that as cr recently released a list of schools currently under investigation, but that must become the norm. please compel them to continuously and publicly release the names of schools under investigation so that my experience can soon become and how wire and not state a non. my partner did not use physical force a first. indeed committed night use physical force of the last of our relationship. in the months and weeks leading up to that moment he utilize psychological and emotional abuse. it starts out as little things, a control booth here, and a burst year, and so there, but out here. most abuse starts like this. these things are by no means
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little. research shows their effects are just as deleterious. in addition, 99 percent of survivors and domestic violence experience abuse. federal making agree that we did not have the authority to expand the definitions of data in domestic violence to include emotional, psychological, and economic abuse without the statues dating as much. please state as much. policies inform expectations and culture and the expectation should not be to wait until you have a loss position under your belt before you can report your abuser and receive justice. >> wednesday c-span looks and sexual assault on college campuses. we will show you a senate health committee hearing into a speech to a reporter about actions taken by the. that is at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> now look at the role religion plays in the election defeat of president jimmy carter.
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historian and pistol peace to the priest is author of redeemer and he spoke about it at the jimmy carter presidential library and museum. this is just over an hour. >> welcome. it is a pleasure for me to introduce. i have followed his tour for a long time. his undergraduate work was done at a school where my father was a dean. and my brother joe attended the school at the same time. and randy has turned into one of our great modern american historians. one of the things that makes a great is he really minds the resources of presidential office. he has come to my gone through and found very interesting documents that other people had not seen before.
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combine with that he has also bind the resources of the archives on the various evangelical organizations that have become involved in politics and in addition to that a talked with his research killed. he is an excellent writer. i have had the privilege of reading many of his books including the one that is just out. i can tell you as much as i have all these subjects in the mile research. if you want to understand the difference the 1970's and 1980's in case you have forgotten there were significant differences. you want to know about the transition to a time when jimmy carter says was president to a time when ronald reagan was
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president, if you want to understand the role of billy graham's and american politics, the role of the cherry caldwell and american politics, this is the book for you. i highly recommend it. as i say, i read it personally and found it very fascinating. i think all of you will, to. before you rush out to buy the book you have the privilege of hearing some comments by the author of self. i give you randy bomber. [applause] [applause] >> thank you for that very kind introduction. it is wonderful to be back here. a lot of work here. the last time i was here when you see him being refurbished. it's been more than three hours this afternoon going to an exhibit at 445. i was utterly and grossed.
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scorned a few things that i did not know before going to the present. want to talk a little bit. tell you first of all as to indicated that went to college, a small college in northern illinois sites. was not good enough to give into wheat college. i went to a small school in the early 1970's. it was during my time that that jimmy carter burst onto the national scene. i had grown up as an evangelical . what was so remarkable to me was that he talked unabashedly about being a born-again christian which is the term we used to describe ourselves except we were always coloring would be did that. and the form of a, a kind of
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wake-up call. the man who was watching for -- running for president being taken seriously able to talk about his faith in very unabashed and unapologetic terms. and so i began taking notice of that. i followed his terror rather closely. this is all but one point of wanted to write a book. i have to say i have been kind of bring with this idea for probably at least two decades now. over the last decade or so i spent a good bit of time during the research. when my schedule permitted. and i just say that i think i've -- claman's for themselves which maybe is not justified. the first biography, takes his
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face seriously as a way of understanding of himself, his conduct, but also the very turbulent religious time in which he did. says 1924. some the first president ever born in the hospital. his mother and he was able to be born in a hospital. the first time in american history. jimmy carter went to a place as cool and he was commissioned to into the navy. a submarine program. and then in 1953 his father
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succumbed to his to package a habit. jimmy carter was granted leave to go back and attend his father's bedside. a revelatory moment because he saw what his father's life admit to some many people to the things that he did not know about his father. the time, for example, that he provided money to of families of a combined enclosed to celebrate their daughter's graduation from high school, something they could not afford to do otherwise . the time that he carried people's mortgages when they were too poor for strapped to do so. the times that he had extended credit to various people in the family. and he returned to his posting in schenectady wanting to have a life much more like his father and to do the kinds of things that his father had done in the community.
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though center of his decision to leave the navy was rosalynn carter who was not abused by this development. apparently is nearly as i can tell. the cartridge from schenectady new york to georgia was conducted an almost total silence. to a very strong people. jimmy carter, the debate or the arguments. the transition. carter, of course, takes the business, not successful in his first year, less than $200 profit for the carter business interest. then he quickly begins to build this into a growing concern. he also begins to look more broadly and service to the community including servers on the sumter county school board and then on his 38 protect the
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october 1st 1962 jerry carter gets out of bed and puts on his sunday trousers rather than his work trousers and goes to america for the georgia state summit without having consulted rosalynn before doing so. when i asked about this says about a year ago pieces, i still can't believe i did that. he would not dream of making such a decision like that today without consulting his wife. times were very different in 1962 than they are now. the election, of course, is contested because of the widespread corruption. i forget the numbers. there were something like for some reason an alphabetical order to ounces second and third
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letters. it was really quite a remarkable day. of course he finds out about this. he is morally outraged. i have to say, my favorite book, turning point as bristles been robbed of his election. and he mounts a campaign when 1963. runs for governor 1966. in georgia at the time. beaten by of all people mad expiry notorious. his seriousness wais. did they after lyndon johnson.
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the parking lot of his restaurant with an ax handle threatening to. he did not want the desegregated restaurants. he uses this -- the campaign. the vigorous campaigning. in to that campaign. really the fields around planes. just not knowing how to proceed. very often with tears in his eyes. then, of course, carter stapleton, the pentecostal evangelist. he has a recommitment of his life to jesus was does seem to
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be very transform if. he speaks of that experience not as a born-again experience which occurred back in 1935 at the crest baptist church, but as a regal to weigh rejuvenation of his faith. on the heels of that jimmy carter goes to mission trips, want to lock haven, pennsylvania with other baptists corner and knocking on doors to tell people about jesus and again in springfield, massachusetts a november of that year of the cuban american pastor from brooklyn to. help me out here to believe this program. again, and very formative moment. at the end of their week together carter asks camino, how it is that he has such a strong belief and how he is so effective in dealing with other
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people. ben cruz stills carter that the secret to a life of faith or being a good question is two things, to love god and to love the person in front of you at any given time. and he repeats this many times over the course of his life as being a former the moment for him. he never loses sight of the georgia state house, and in 1970 he launches it another campaign, this time successful. mr. carter and others. he does "as a gracious vote in his campaign. at that time they could not succeed themselves. he endorses maddox and seeks and when some of the segregation in
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endorsements. he's uneasy about that even at the time. he tells him at that time, you like my campaign, but you will like my administration. there is some evidence that -- i think it is inconclusive, but there is some evidence that after that campaign carter apologizes to his perry opponent in that campaign, former governor carroll sanders for cars conduct during that campaign. but it was not exactly a sterling moment in the life of jimmy carter, and i think he realizes that and regrets it. he takes office as governor of georgia is january 12th 1971 and famously says the people of georgia the time for racial discrimination is over and this is in part what really estimates in.
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there is an article about jerry carter and his inauguration as governor, what he said to the people of georgia. within several weeks time magazine put some on the cover as an example of a new style of government, posters of governor perry not to mention the article carter is the one who was on the cover of time magazine. carter almost immediately begins to think about running for president after being governor of georgia. a few days. he begins looking toward larger rises. george mcgovern's cataclysmic loss to richard nixon and the presidential campaign of 1962 cars as tell with hamilton jordan and others and begins to plot out his rise to the
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presidency four years later. at the end of 1973, the beginning of 1974 to remarkable evidence to place within six months of each other. the narrative is going to virgil little bit more toward religion and faith. the thanksgiving weekend in 1973 in chicago, illinois at the wabash ymca to -- evangelicals, they hammer out a document called a chicago declaration of evangelicals social conservatives. this is a remarkable document the strain of evangelicalism that his offered in this document and available on the web of economic data for yourself, it's part of what are called progressive image of
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wasn't. takes his mandate from the new testament where jesus talked about having the character to be peacemakers, turn the other cheek. but also historical the the antecedent was evangelicals in the 19th century in the early 20th centuries who were very much concerned about those on the margins of society. in the antebellum time in particular coming out of an event that historians call the second great awakening at the turn of the 19th century there was and evangelicals reform impulse that really did reshape american society over the course of the 19th century. ..
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>> >> who were trying to make the world better place. and detonates the reform impulses those that jesus called the least but this is traditional but in the 19th century to rehabilitate in the antebellum period and the 20th-century as well with william jennings bryant and albeit failed democratic nominee for president with
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issues of this sort so people gathering and in chicago has actually tried to rehabilitate which have fallen away for reasons that i can get into later. but to contain statements of the of of the tourism in the gap between rich and pour in and the scandal people went to bet hungry, equal rights for women. l least among many but also the sturgeon of racism. so this event that took place november 19736 months
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later in athens georgia there was the event university of georgia law school that is the tradition of the georgia law school that it invites dignitaries like supreme court cahan justices and senators and people to address them. of the keynote speaker was the senator from massachusetts, senator kennedy. of that time it was the governor of georgia jimmy carter. and had to do with the impeachment proceedings against nixon and carter
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addresses election and says there to influences on his life one watches ronald and hater and the it sad to the politics was established to the of a whole world. but the second formative influence was that great theologian bob dylan whose song eight can work on maggie's farm no more was day important song of farmers and goes on to narrow say that's a particularly lobbyist
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against ordinary folks. in those who very often themselves were the dignitary agencies and corporations. and the prison population but overwhelmingly those who cannot afford adequate representation with their way at of the justice system. and he would sound those populist themes he was beginning to reverse for his presidential run in 1976 of course, his remarks a mistake journalist in the
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audience and said he figured hunter thompson was simply going out to refresh were never a dull beverage he was consuming bad day but up to retrieve his tape recorder because he wanted to be extraordinary. a politician who dared to your toe and later described the speech and said one of the most remarkable speeches he has ever heard for a politician to take on powerful interest to speak the truth so within the six months period in a remarkable juxtaposition ideology between the chicago declaration and a lot of the themes that carter started in 1970 for 40 years ago
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this month is when he made that famous address. and then to announce his candidacy in the month before the gallup organization conducted a poll on the part of the american people and of those 32 names they listed in announcing candidacy for president in 1974. and then to make a name for himself in the caucuses and a january 1976 and then as part of the national conversation and.
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one of the signature at achievements that on march 9 he beat george wallace on the florida primary effectively ending his tenure presidency vanquishing the segregationist from political dive of the day. and then for having done that in 1976 goes on to the democratic national convention and then into the general election and find a high intel he decides he gives an interview to "playboy" magazine a few weeks before the election and this is the famous interview where he a acknowledged he lusted after
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other women other than his own life under the and remarkable. the press picked up on this and made a huge spectacle and carter began to sink and he lost 15 percentage points with the favorability rating after the playboy interview. desk week by that election over gerald ford and cats the presidency. to talk up the presidency itself not to to address specific endeavors or accomplishments but to focus on the religious situation that is quite remarkable so why is it had evangelical voters in great numbers to
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than turn against have four years later in 1980. there is a fascinating story try to tell in the book that is often misunderstood. that these evangelicals were exercised over the roe v wade ruling. jerry falwell and others and very often said they are the new abolitionist with the opposition to a portion and evangelicals to slavery and to actually there is a bit of fiction.
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abortion for evangelical simply was not an issue for most of the 1970's. we have some evidence for this but in 1969
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>> >> the quick story aristos in particular not to oppose abortion for racial segregation in the issue was
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the rule of the 1954 budget the civil-rights act of 1864 antheil's except for bade racial segregation in order discrimination. the irs was trying to enforce the provision the act of 1864 in issued the opinion any organization that engages in racial segregation and discrimination is not by definition a charitable organization. therefore it has no claims of tax-exempt status. again i can go into details of the case that cannot of mississippi but it was called segregation academies after the education ruling
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of 1954. as the irs tried to force the ruling by the way from the district of columbia with the case to an force that provision the irs targeted a fundamentalist school called bob jones university said did not envy it - - shipment of african-americans as a part-time student on the campus of bob jones university and racial mixing did not admit to the student body but still retaining racial policies.
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that is what got the attention of people like jerry falwell who said it is easier to open a massage parlor of course, jerry falwell has his own segregation academy and this is what gets him and others motivated. as the architect of the religious right has corroborated is emphatic about this point i was trying to kick these people ever since of goldwater campaign and i tried everything i could think of. school prayer, prayer, abortion, nothing got their attention until the school issue and that is what galvanized them into a political movement.
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the second part of the story , the bob dylan case with the evangelical leaders but was also savvy enough to realize he needed day different issue to have grass roots evangelicals from the religious right and in 1978 the answer finally comes to him and particularly in minnesota and iowa something remarkable happens there are three seats up for office. and the governorship rollup for grabs. and in iowa dick clark was the incumbent and going into
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the election no poll showed clark ahead by fewer than 10 percentage points during those final. but what happens in iowa and minnesota is pro-life catholics would deflate the church parking lot on the sunday before the election and in iowa clark news is too rare pro-life republican and in minnesota the pro-life republicans capture of three elections. the governorship in both senate seats. all of them on pro-life.
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when i was doing research at the university of wyoming in the laramie, the correspondence crackled with excitement. because he realizes he has got his issue to galvanize the new movement of the religious right and uses that to the phone advantage of the 1980 election that goes against carter as the evangelicals who was running for reelection against ronald reagan used commercials are more tenuous than carter's. for whatever reagan's quality was the episodic churchgoer and as governor of california passed most liberal abortion bill and
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the country but by 1980 came around to pro-life of them was good enough for falwell and other leaders of the religious right. but carter's faith politically is also compromised by billy graham's. a lot of people do have a lot of respect for billy graham but he repeated the threat out that 80 campaign gives assurance to carter himself or to his aides of his support but then days later he makes phone calls to people like reagan's campaign share offering to do whatever he could. this is all in the book i just give you a little bit. then of course, carter is
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defeated it goes back to receive begins to distort his post presidency and i will try to wrap this up quickly to take questions. and we stand here in one glorious manifestation of his post presidential years. and jimmy carter coming from the former president of emory university the only person for whom the presidency was a stepping stone into does capture where jimmy carter has done apparently he is not terribly fond but i do think it has captured. i called the book "redeemer: the life of jimmy carter" for a couple of reasons. in many ways he redeemed the nation after the sins of watergate. i try to impress to the students that they don't
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quite cast how low we were as a nation from confidence in ourselves and our confidence in institutions with the presidency and johnson lied about the unknown in nixon lied about pretty much everything. and carter comes along and says several never knowingly lied to the american people again. what a radical idea that the president would not my. we were not used to a sort of thing but also jimmy carter has many faults but i
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try to treat them fairly but no one died of a chess seriously questioned is moral core and they're going to read a few short passages from the epilogue from the claims of june 2nd then mr. carter would do here is is baptist country the roads are bracketed by red soil and buildings sporting names like shiloh variant baptist church, and missionary
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baptist church and greater good hope baptist church. love jesus no matter what in an end but others did take freeze your savior and to oppose each commandments on the chain link fence for travelers passing through time. those crossing into webster the boyhood home of jimmy carter in the business district in the former seaboard coast with a campaign headquarters in 1976 and known museum.
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it is no longer the hub of excitement that it was to learn more about the democratic nominee for president and then carter held that the train station and i have the mother who joined the peace corps and one sister races motorcycles another who was so holy roller preacher in their brother then pausing for dramatic effect i am the only sane one in the family. and then talk about going to church but meeting with him after church because he wants to you give me a book because he cannot find a new copy of the book.
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and then goes on to another event. and then to head out of town also known as old plays high way. said the young jim may carter walked as of bordet to sell for pocket money it has been characterized by the insatiable ambition to rise above his circumstances as the country boy as the navy's midshipmen as a respected world beater and humanitarian and carter had referred to martin luther's notion that each of us is
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responsible to guide with the ministerial authority actually impeded carter fell to newt the control criticism with the popular understanding to earn salvation protestants are equally susceptible end as i pass it is difficult to escape the impression that carter was driven into almost obsessed by the righteousness. he always believed in the value of work and the farm to sustain profitability it would lead to better opportunities and hard work might wind praise or promotion on the campaign
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trail working harder than your opponent to shake more hands would lead to victory. with long hours resolve to read every piece of legislation to ensure success and reelection. it disrupted that calculus the retractable odds the chronic energy dependence and the islamic revolution in iran the political opposition from his own party that simply would not yield to hard work for longer hours. that shattering electoral losses in 1980 not only was the end of his political career by repudiation of the notion that if you just work harder and longer for his efforts would be rewarded. the electric now recognized
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he was doing everything humanly possible working as hard as he could to solve these problems. after serving his defeat carter reaffirmed his commitment as a way to redeem his losses and the carter center would be an activist institution and habitat for humanity was not nothing if not an activist organization in the former president would not retire quietly into private life and there was work to be done eradicating disease monitoring elections elections, building houses and teaching sunday school with military confrontations and making peace. if carter could work hard enough he could accumulate enough merit to cut the balance of history in his favor.
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to a remarkable degree his commitment was success although they continued to criticize and ridicule his presidency the story is regarded more favorably. of his activities after leaving office earned him praise and grudging admiration with that ultimate delegation and at what point does he earned a reprieve? when can he relaxed? certainly not on the sunday even after teaching sunday school imposing with a tour is the only questions for a biographer and habitat for humanity donors as i was down highway 61 and carter bodice beating off on a
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crowded schedule. the former president pushing 90 years old still a restless man but still the frenetic benevolence that continues says martin luther recognizes centuries earlier those that subscribe to the righteousness never be certain they have accumulated enough merit jimmy carter does not lack so much for passion. the man whose probable election in 1976 brought the nation from watergate's and he earned his own redemption. carter himself however would be the last to know. thank you. [applause] >> we will take a few minutes of questions.
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and you don't need to grab the microphone. >> talk about the current use of evangelical in the '60s it with differentiate but now it is all in the newspapers. i again to go back for the evangelical. >> that is a great question. jerry falwell himself said that a fundamentalist is an evangelical is something -- someone is mad about something but falwell always wanted to identify
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himself because he thought evangelicals were prone to compromise. it is the reverberations of the tea party stuff. he thought there were too willing to compromise and he wanted to maintain a hard edge. so the terms are somewhat interchangeable with that militancy rather than evangelicals. but you are right to there is not a great deal of theological issues. >> can you tell us your opinion on the juxtaposition of antiabortion expansion of alcohol and guns in georgia
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of legislative session? >> there are other people better qualified to comment than i. water use suggesting? >> that over here is antiabortion and alcohol and guns are on this side it is the opposite. >> ic with libertarians sentiments? >> that is fascinating to me. i don't want to be pretentious but it does strike me as curious that people who attend to talk about less government and less interference of private lives are willing to work for the hautboys that are more interested if. it is the great paradox that nobody has explained to me how that works.
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arguably on the other spectrum as well that those that repeated the have more favorable regulation to have of your pro-choice position so there is that contradiction but evangelicals frankly it proved this coming it is not necessarily a logical issue and they have to be averted were other things happened in the late '70s to account for that series by m man named francis and schaefer and c. everett coop really does educates evangelicals about the abortion issue and this was the pattern of moral decay.
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but throughout the '70s through 79 is not the evangelical issue. >> bill clinton spoke and the current president that showcases that conversation he does not go to the service publicly for literature or bible verses that carter was able to open >> a wonderful question. podiatrists this issue in the book arguing guide in the white house with that ministerial association
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related to establish this idea of presidential politics and what he did was tell voters to vote when they went to the polls. when i have that paradigm with politics up and tell 76 which was carter, how many people here could tell me what lyndon johnson's religious affiliation was? most people say baptist. but most people don't know that. but in a backhanded way nixon produces it because when the '76 campaign will
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sit around they have to have some sort of sense up in the moral compass in the the question has persisted and is dying away now endless million to that is but one of the problems is we don't know how to ask the question. to be more of a reliable. the other way is it is not a good question because of flawed assumption


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